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A Vegan Diet is Bad For Gains

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  1. Scott Reed says:
    1 month ago

    Was a vegan for 3 years and I was able to put on muscle, but the last year was very hard. I started eating animal products again because my cholesterol was ZERO and it was messing with my hormones, I actually needed some cholesterol. I still believe in eating clean and I don’t believe you have to eat 2g of protein per lb of body weight. We can only utilize so much protein, also, when in started feeling better is when I upped my fat.

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  2. Lyell Walker says:
    1 month ago

    My wife is vegan but doesn't care to be jacked. Fit but not jacked. How much protein should she try to get each day?

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  3. Odysee better than YT says:
    1 month ago

    Whether or not you can get jacked as a vegan depends on going vegan the right way.

    Theoretically you can. But in practice? That's a lot different. Speaking as a coach who's had numerous vegan clients over the years.

    IF you can do it the right way is a big stipulation when you consider it's harder to get enough calories and protein as a vegan, something plenty of people already struggle with on an unrestricted diet.

    It's even harder to get sufficient micronutrients and not destroy your absorption with excessive phytates and oxalates, among other issues. If your test plummets as a result of a severe zinc and magnesium deficiency, you won't be able to build muscle very easily.

    The stereotype is that vegans are small and frail and of course correlation doesn't mean causation, but casual relationships do always correlate. I think it is ridiculous to throw out the strong possibility that in terms of the real world, where people are not that great at managing their diet, being vegan will most likely lead to you being malnourished and frail.

    A vegan diet is strapping on high heels before you go hiking when everyone else wears boots.

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  4. Pranav Gainz says:
    1 month ago

    I see. So as a 160lbs vegan I should consume anywhere from 200g-220g of protien per day to gain muscle. Especially if I'm in a calorie deficit. Got it… that's just insane!

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  5. Kermit Jagger says:
    1 month ago

    Most vegans are annoying, ignorant and emotional

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  6. Freddy Eriksson says:
    1 month ago

    I RATHER GO GAY THEN GO VEGAN

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  7. Bobby Treacy says:
    1 month ago

    I'm a vegan guy and I got offended when he said being vegan is typical with people who are more feminine, but then i realised expecting people to care that youre offended by a youtube video is also a very feminine thing. 🙁

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  8. AnthroGuitarist says:
    1 month ago

    I could never have any respect for a vegan. They turn their back on what it means to be human and they deserve to be mocked and laughed at into oblivion. Eating meat is what makes us intelligent, strong, and courageous. It demonstrates our dominion over the animal world

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  9. Nunya Dambidniss says:
    1 month ago

    What EXACTLY is a "Well planned" Vegan Diet though ???
    I don't even believe in such a thing.

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  10. neet bucks says:
    1 month ago

    really informative video, you’re really smart! i wanna be just like you when I’m your age! love you man!

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  11. EvolvedPants says:
    1 month ago

    I need someone to explain to me like I’m stupid how I’m supposed to get 250-300g protein in under 2k calories on a vegan diet without having dangerous levels of fats, emptying my bank account on protein powders and specialty vegan products like Quorn, and without eating nothing but pure soy (which that level of intake needs more study). Cutting on a vegan diet just looks mathematically impossible

    Because I want to go vegan, but the math isn’t adding up. I see A LOT of vegans online saying that actually you need very little protein, which really just feels like cope. I want to do this, but I hate being in a position where it’s either my dreams or my ethics

    I see the VAST majority of vegan fitness success stories from women who, funny enough, actually get fantastic macro ratios on a vegan diet because they don’t need the protein of a 200 pound male

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  12. GodlessPhilosopher says:
    1 month ago

    Wtf was that noise at 5:50?? lol

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  13. MS2Shinobi says:
    1 month ago

    lolol beta cuck :')) thank you mike

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  14. BalooSD says:
    1 month ago

    You missed the critical difference: Cholesterol. Cholesterol is the bedrock for building cells and the foundation for testosterone. A vegan diet completely lacks cholesterol, and will, over time, result in lower testosterone and brain deterioration. Fuck that.

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  15. MikeOfTheBeast says:
    1 month ago

    To anyone that doubts whether or not vegan/plant based individuals can be strong and/or jacked, there's a guy named Evan Kardon on YouTube who is vegan and deadlifted 863 lb at a bodyweight of 230 lb.

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  16. Neural Tech says:
    1 month ago

    “Blue haired Vegans are tiny.”

    Dr. Mike 2022

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  17. lukas johnsson says:
    1 month ago

    Vegan or not. The best thing you can do for growing muscle and getting stronger is eating enough(protein and calories), sleep enough, and work hard. I workout with 2 of my friends, both are omnivores and I'm vegan. I'm by far the biggest and strongest guy there, but It's because I take building muslce and getting stronger more seriously than them.

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  18. Leinekenugel Von Doofenfocker says:
    1 month ago

    The main problem with the research we do have is the fact that we don't know objectively what they were eating before then, and it is done on vegans in the honeymoon phase. The problems noted about the vegan diet occur over time. If they just started they may have accumulated nutrition previously that allows them to go further.
    The thing is that even if you eat complete plant protein, if the protien is bound in fiber, it's going to be poop. Along with any other nutrient on the ingredient label.
    That and the amino acids are in different ratios which is a whole nothr rabbit hole.
    If you have a decent accumuation of various amino acids then there is room to compensate, for a while.
    The other biggest problem is that there is no established way to "do it right".
    Most nutrients have to be in the soil for it to end up in the plant, then just because they are there doesn't mean they are in a usable form. Then if they are in a usable form but they are in fiber, they are going to become poop.
    That and the RDI's being used as a guide, are opinion peices derived from nonexperimental epidemiology.
    If you are vegan long enough the end result is defeciency problems.
    If you subject an infant or toddler to any type of vegan diet, you will harm them, if not kill them. That alone shows it to be inferior for human nutrition.
    N14, and N14 testing on humans establishes that humans have eaten meat almost exclusively for most of our existence. You are simply not going to do nearly as well on rabbit food as an obligate hypercarnivore. Even as a somewhat adapted omnivore.

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  19. Antoine Bonzon says:
    1 month ago

    It's sad because he did not even talk about the two studies that directly compared omnivores and vegans in a context of resistance training. I think that they ate like 1.6g per kg of bodyweight and there was NO difference in muscle accretion between the groups. See Eric Trexler's work on this…

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  20. Kilju Pullo says:
    1 month ago

    10 year vegan here. OHP 90kgx8, incline pench press 160kgx8. Go natty vegan! 💪😎

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  21. Ian Pierce says:
    1 month ago

    The real myth here is that most people don't want to be jacked. Mike spill the beans you know the truth… everyone wants to be jacked

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  22. rob cubed says:
    1 month ago

    So basically a vegan diet doesn't build muscle unless one takes supplements.

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  23. John Cromwell says:
    1 month ago

    I'm 6'8" and weigh 250lbs. . Getting 300+ grams of protein per day from plant sources is doable but you have to eat A LOT of calories. Vegan sources don't even come close to meat in the protein per calorie ratio. This is fine if you are gaining weight or do a ton of cardio but if you're trying to cut I found it impossible to meet my calorie and protein goals on a vegan diet.

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  24. Fod123 says:
    1 month ago

    I enjoy Mike's refined memery

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  25. bobo 5195 says:
    1 month ago

    is this the way to summon vegangainz?

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  26. TopLift says:
    1 month ago

    Wow vegans are feminine aka pussies lol

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  27. Price Rowland says:
    1 month ago

    The principles of nutrition stay the same, whether you're vegan or carnivore. I'm personally a meat eater but I believe with proper supplementation to address gaps there's no reason a vegan/vegetarian can't perform just as well. If anything this has become easier over the years as more viable options for plant-based diets have opened up. People spew this utter nonsense without realizing that there are vegan olympic athletes, bodybuilders, etc.

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  28. Edward J Lee says:
    1 month ago

    Just heard that natural hypertrophy chanel got deleted no strike no warning even his google account was deleted #FreeNH

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  29. Stanley Kubik says:
    1 month ago

    Thank you for another great video:)

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  30. Abraham Kist-Okazaki says:
    1 month ago

    I still have problems trying to understand why folks would hate animals so much that they make their diet exclusively of food that is meant for animals to eat. I was raised in a vegetarian household back in the 1960s. All I can say is that if you do go that route, please make sure to get high-quality sources of protein because not all protein is created equal. My guess is, that if you watch this channel, you are serious about your diet and already know this.

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  31. Diego Acosta says:
    1 month ago

    I'm currently a Vegetarian until I get out of the military complex, but even still, I lift about the same as I did when I was a Vegan back home or an "omnivore" before that. And I'm usually stronger than most dudes around me but nobody would ever guess I'm vegetarian now since I just don't talk about it (almost 5 years plantbased now, btw)

    But I fully know It's possible to be strong/muscular as a plantbased guy. Gorilla men are out there lol

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  32. izzysmart says:
    1 month ago

    I cannot take creatine, gives me a rash. I do take vitamin d in high doses and Bs

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  33. Jay Allen says:
    1 month ago

    I was able to put on muscle as a vegan, but it was just harder. I was able to get 160g protein and eat 2800 calories, but with 3 hours of free time a day and the amount of prep work I was doing to get there was just ridiculous. If you want to eat clean vegan foods non processed and put on weight it’s going to really cut into your free time with prep.

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  34. izzysmart says:
    1 month ago

    Well as a vegan I can say I am more ripped and bigger than ever 🤘🏼so it’s clearly a myth lol

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  35. andrija krsmanovic says:
    1 month ago

    I can imagine Mike googling cuck and being stunned lol

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