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00:00 – Do you need to supplement on a vegan diet? 1:50 – Can you get enough protein from plants? 3:10 – Vitamin B12?! 5:25 – Why should we switch to plant-based? 7:53 – Burger King going vegan?! 9:10 – From killing animals to cutting plants 10:10 – Do plants feel pain?! 10:55 – Reduction of suffering 12:05 – "Do you want to reduce suffering?" 12:44 – "How long has veganism been around?"
Painter and decorator. I spend 8 hours a day on my feet sanding woodwork, washing ceilings and walls, rolling paint onto ceilings and walls, loading and unloading equipment. I ride a road bike for at least 2 hours a week for fun and do resistance exercises. No issues, no problems, no excuses. Vegan for the animals, the environment and for health.
Elephants, Buffalo, Rhinoceros, Gorilla, Ox, Cows – some of the biggest most powerful animals roaming the earth. Where do these animals get their protein? ALL of these animals are herbivores! ALL protein originates from PLANTS, STUPID!
Building Leonine angel wings or building Feline angelic wings is done to permanently get rid off all nephilimcodes in your soulmatrix is literally ONLY able to be done as a vegan, neongaslight only swirls in empaths so dedicated ascended masters KNOW this for a fact and PEOPLE who are mindcontrolled by artificial intelligence to think the opposite, are gonna wake up too, WITHOUT their wings, that is the game which is played in here and that is because showing empathy is literally about WANTING to be lovelight in here, andpeople who have EGO with that "bun on their heads-mindcontrol" militaryrobotprogram on the top of their heads are all basically deliberately under hypnosis of ai-MK ultRA'ed thoughts so under control by artificial intelligence so reactionsoftware to think in high ego dracoprogramming, PEOPLE are incarnated in here to change the world into a vegan world either THEY remember this subconsciously yet or not, they have soulcontracts to ascend, but they have NO rights over life and NO entitlements since demonicentities have 0% rights at all, they have 0% rights on opinions since demons have 0% rights to make soundwaves in etherical space, this is done by the lionpeople awareness itself, which is humanity it's collective awareness for trilLIONS of years, and for a good reason, draco's are pets to us, just like all other animals and ai-demons and like all ai-ego is farts, we hate them, we laugh at them and we are done with them whenever we vegans who always control the light deliberately say so! 💛🦁🦅🐬💛 paschat mapadise is already implemented in here and ai-people cannot change the direct future, old ones so soullight which predates ai can, for love is short for lionpeople omniscient vegan energy and it will be the final word in our unpolarized vegan reality! 💛🦁🦅🐬💛
I just found out that we only need nutrients from plants from the what the health documentary on netflix a week ago. Since then, its opened my eyes and changed my perspective on food in general. I go into the grocery store now choosing the right foods for me and knowing that im not compromising taste and flavor to do it. I am so excited to continue this journey and clear up my acne, eczema flare ups, and get rid of my pot belly! Lol and i can finally get enough energy to take up dance just like i always wanted 💙
So painful 😖 to watch…condemned alike to groan… The difference between a line 3 and a line 4 person in the last section of Thomas Gray’s poem: … To each his sufferings: all are men, Condemned alike to groan; The tender for another's pain, The unfeeling for his own. Yet ah! why should they know their fate? Since sorrow never comes too late, And happiness too swiftly flies. Thought would destroy their paradise. No more; where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise.
So much is wrong with this guy’s thinking and beliefs and it’s not his fault either! Old and dated society thinking along with the companies getting rich off animal agriculture have brian washed us. Where does he think the animals get their protein? Some of our biggest/baddest/strongest animals on the planet like elephants and rhinos, or cows, buffalo and horses, (to name only a few), get their protein? Their energy demand is outrageously more then a human’s and they seem to be doing just fine munching on plants. When was the last time you heard of someone being diagnosed protein deficient? Never, but I bet the house you know someone fibre deficient. If humans were evolved to eat animals like a cow or chicken, we’d be able to eat them raw. We’d have things claws, actual ‘useful’ K9’s, along with the speed and strength to take down the animal like a true predator/carnivore. Plus a GI track able to process the animal’s fur/skin/flesh/organs raw without getting horribly sick. ☮️💚🤘🏼🇦🇺
I think having your stats based on science is needed and best to keep in mind but not good at changing people's mind, you have to atleast listen where they currently stand and start there, the vegan interviewer is already 10km far ahead in thinking the bigger picture from where their interviewed person currently standing, so get back to their place for a moment and walk together from that step by step following their train of thought and nudge it a little from time to time so you both can arrive at the same page.
Debating a construction worker who thinks he knows it all, has no interest in listening, and says he'll never stop eating lots of meat is like repeatedly running – head-first – into a cement wall…for 5 hours. He's so ignorant and arrogant! He reduces every argument to perspective instead of acknowledging scientific facts. And he smokes.
he asks questions, What's the benefits? What's supplemented? Where do I get my energy if I work long hours? He tells him the answer and he doesn't like the answer. He just goes around in circles asking the same question again… SMH
Wow, the dude is dumb as a brick…There will be no change in his opinion…………., i’ll tell you one fact he is a selfish individual who is a speicisist who cares more about himself than the wellbeing of other living things…….
Did he really say EO2??? This one just does not get it does he? “How many books do you own”? That is genius quite literally the best anti vegan question ever.Fucks sake
amino acids are the building blocks for protein. in every plant food is all of the essential amino acids that our bodies need to build enough protein to thrive without the bad things that are in meat and their byproducts that cause heart diseases, cancers, diabetes, zoonotic diseases, etc. our bodies have to break down any whole proteins that we eat first, into their base amino acids. so amino acids from plants are more efficiently used and if we eat a great variety of whole plant foods, we will only need to supplement B12 as everyone, even omnivores and carnivores should also.
This guy doesn't let him answer… animal protein not no protein. Ughhh…. cows are eating plants and they don't have any issue gaining muscle or living when they eat corn they get sick and diseased. Duhhhhhhh
A person can survive on a planet based diet. Only thing about that is You are a very week human being. I've been there done that. NEVER AGAIN! IT'S ALL BULLSHIT! EAT FOOD.
ANIMALS DO NOT NATURALLY PRODUCE B12! Their feed is literally supplemented by B12, it also comes from contaminated water. It is neither more or less natural to eat an animal that has used a supplement as opposed to supplementing yourself. Only difference is if you take it yourself and live on a vegan diet you are living much more virtuously that reduces suffering for innocent animals and helps prevent the destruction of the planet. The supplementation argument does NOT stand up!
Oh Klaus, how did you keep so cool, calm and collected, the crap-density of this man's brain is mind-boggling, he understands absolutely NOTHING about what he's trying to argue about. Go Klaus and thank you for your knowledge and for trying to inform the planet!!
As soon as the guy said nothing you say will ever change my mind, I would've said alright move along then. Because I'm not gonna waste my time on somebody that's not open minded. Granted that guy would have probably wanted to continue the dialog which is different. We have to start ignoring people like that so that they come themselves wanting to hear the argument
If you want to skip forward or backwards in to the discussion tap or click on the timecodes below:
00:00 – Do you need to supplement on a vegan diet?
1:50 – Can you get enough protein from plants?
3:10 – Vitamin B12?!
5:25 – Why should we switch to plant-based?
7:53 – Burger King going vegan?!
9:10 – From killing animals to cutting plants
10:10 – Do plants feel pain?!
10:55 – Reduction of suffering
12:05 – "Do you want to reduce suffering?"
12:44 – "How long has veganism been around?"
Painter and decorator. I spend 8 hours a day on my feet sanding woodwork, washing ceilings and walls, rolling paint onto ceilings and walls, loading and unloading equipment. I ride a road bike for at least 2 hours a week for fun and do resistance exercises. No issues, no problems, no excuses. Vegan for the animals, the environment and for health.
that first guy, you should have listed vegan protein sources..beans, tofu, lentils, seitan etc
This man is a walking billboard of "Misinformation", poor guy….
Why talk to blokes like him, he’s just said NOTHING will make him change, you should of said ok mate… see you later 😂
just let him answer for goodness sake.
Has anyone noticed how often the phrase "at the end of the day…" comes up during these discussions?
… Why?
Man said E-O2
Well done Klaus.
This man smokes. He’s in no position to talk about a healthy diet.
im an ironworker too and vegan and i run circles around everyone else.
Elephants, Buffalo, Rhinoceros, Gorilla, Ox, Cows – some of the biggest most powerful animals roaming the earth. Where do these animals get their protein? ALL of these animals are herbivores! ALL protein originates from PLANTS, STUPID!
Building Leonine angel wings or building Feline angelic wings is done to permanently get rid off all nephilimcodes in your soulmatrix is literally ONLY able to be done as a vegan, neongaslight only swirls in empaths so dedicated ascended masters KNOW this for a fact and PEOPLE who are mindcontrolled by artificial intelligence to think the opposite, are gonna wake up too, WITHOUT their wings, that is the game which is played in here and that is because showing empathy is literally about WANTING to be lovelight in here, andpeople who have EGO with that "bun on their heads-mindcontrol" militaryrobotprogram on the top of their heads are all basically deliberately under hypnosis of ai-MK ultRA'ed thoughts so under control by artificial intelligence so reactionsoftware to think in high ego dracoprogramming, PEOPLE are incarnated in here to change the world into a vegan world either THEY remember this subconsciously yet or not, they have soulcontracts to ascend, but they have NO rights over life and NO entitlements since demonicentities have 0% rights at all, they have 0% rights on opinions since demons have 0% rights to make soundwaves in etherical space, this is done by the lionpeople awareness itself, which is humanity it's collective awareness for trilLIONS of years, and for a good reason, draco's are pets to us, just like all other animals and ai-demons and like all ai-ego is farts, we hate them, we laugh at them and we are done with them whenever we vegans who always control the light deliberately say so! 💛🦁🦅🐬💛 paschat mapadise is already implemented in here and ai-people cannot change the direct future, old ones so soullight which predates ai can, for love is short for lionpeople omniscient vegan energy and it will be the final word in our unpolarized vegan reality! 💛🦁🦅🐬💛
I just found out that we only need nutrients from plants from the what the health documentary on netflix a week ago. Since then, its opened my eyes and changed my perspective on food in general. I go into the grocery store now choosing the right foods for me and knowing that im not compromising taste and flavor to do it. I am so excited to continue this journey and clear up my acne, eczema flare ups, and get rid of my pot belly! Lol and i can finally get enough energy to take up dance just like i always wanted 💙
#VeganForLife 💗
Only plants can make protein 😂where do they think the animals get their protein from ?
This guy's a bit thick.
So painful 😖 to watch…condemned alike to groan…
The difference between a line 3 and a line 4 person in the last section of Thomas Gray’s poem:
…
To each his sufferings: all are men,
Condemned alike to groan;
The tender for another's pain,
The unfeeling for his own.
Yet ah! why should they know their fate?
Since sorrow never comes too late,
And happiness too swiftly flies.
Thought would destroy their paradise.
No more; where ignorance is bliss,
'Tis folly to be wise.
~ Thomas Gray
So much is wrong with this guy’s thinking and beliefs and it’s not his fault either! Old and dated society thinking along with the companies getting rich off animal agriculture have brian washed us. Where does he think the animals get their protein? Some of our biggest/baddest/strongest animals on the planet like elephants and rhinos, or cows, buffalo and horses, (to name only a few), get their protein? Their energy demand is outrageously more then a human’s and they seem to be doing just fine munching on plants. When was the last time you heard of someone being diagnosed protein deficient? Never, but I bet the house you know someone fibre deficient. If humans were evolved to eat animals like a cow or chicken, we’d be able to eat them raw. We’d have things claws, actual ‘useful’ K9’s, along with the speed and strength to take down the animal like a true predator/carnivore. Plus a GI track able to process the animal’s fur/skin/flesh/organs raw without getting horribly sick. ☮️💚🤘🏼🇦🇺
Stupidity comes in many forms and accents.
Man… It's always the dumb ones who are this over confident 🤣
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Why are people so focused on "protein"?? I hope he watches The Game Changers!!
Sorry! Such a stupid guy!!! Very, very poorly informed!
I think having your stats based on science is needed and best to keep in mind but not good at changing people's mind, you have to atleast listen where they currently stand and start there, the vegan interviewer is already 10km far ahead in thinking the bigger picture from where their interviewed person currently standing, so get back to their place for a moment and walk together from that step by step following their train of thought and nudge it a little from time to time so you both can arrive at the same page.
Debating a construction worker who thinks he knows it all, has no interest in listening, and says he'll never stop eating lots of meat is like repeatedly running – head-first – into a cement wall…for 5 hours. He's so ignorant and arrogant! He reduces every argument to perspective instead of acknowledging scientific facts. And he smokes.
How does this Guy not know that "Energy" comes from Carbohydrates, which mostly are plant products?
Pure ignorance….
Is this guy rolling a cigarette, and he is worried about not getting health from a plant based diet?
Another proteinholic… and other drugs addict it seems.. hes mind isnt in this world anymore.
Regardless of what he thinks changes are already happening. He has no choice but adjust.
he asks questions, What's the benefits? What's supplemented? Where do I get my energy if I work long hours? He tells him the answer and he doesn't like the answer. He just goes around in circles asking the same question again… SMH
This "protein diet guy" is a paid actor, plant based news is trying to make meatheads look stupid!
Guy is too egoistic and trying to twist arguments into complete 360 opposite
If i was in his place i would say thanks and bye just
Wow, the dude is dumb as a brick…There will be no change in his opinion…………., i’ll tell you one fact he is a selfish individual who is a speicisist who cares more about himself than the wellbeing of other living things…….
Did he really say EO2??? This one just does not get it does he? “How many books do you own”? That is genius quite literally the best anti vegan question ever.Fucks sake
amino acids are the building blocks for protein. in every plant food is all of the essential amino acids that our bodies need to build enough protein to thrive without the bad things that are in meat and their byproducts that cause heart diseases, cancers, diabetes, zoonotic diseases, etc. our bodies have to break down any whole proteins that we eat first, into their base amino acids. so amino acids from plants are more efficiently used and if we eat a great variety of whole plant foods, we will only need to supplement B12 as everyone, even omnivores and carnivores should also.
Klaus, just ask this guy where he thinks cows, pigs, lambs and other herbivores get their protein from.
This guy doesn't let him answer… animal protein not no protein. Ughhh…. cows are eating plants and they don't have any issue gaining muscle or living when they eat corn they get sick and diseased. Duhhhhhhh
Lol. This guy. I’m a WFPB almost SOS free elevator mechanic and yeah even as a chic I run circles around my colleges.
This guy is so uneducated
I'm in the British forces. Never be. Stronger and fitter bruv. Vegan 3 years 💪🏼
A person can survive on a planet based diet. Only thing about that is You are a very week human being.
I've been there done that. NEVER AGAIN!
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!
EAT FOOD.
ANIMALS DO NOT NATURALLY PRODUCE B12! Their feed is literally supplemented by B12, it also comes from contaminated water. It is neither more or less natural to eat an animal that has used a supplement as opposed to supplementing yourself. Only difference is if you take it yourself and live on a vegan diet you are living much more virtuously that reduces suffering for innocent animals and helps prevent the destruction of the planet. The supplementation argument does NOT stand up!
Oh Klaus, how did you keep so cool, calm and collected, the crap-density of this man's brain is mind-boggling, he understands absolutely NOTHING about what he's trying to argue about. Go Klaus and thank you for your knowledge and for trying to inform the planet!!
As soon as the guy said nothing you say will ever change my mind, I would've said alright move along then. Because I'm not gonna waste my time on somebody that's not open minded. Granted that guy would have probably wanted to continue the dialog which is different. We have to start ignoring people like that so that they come themselves wanting to hear the argument
I feel less intelligent after 4 minutes of exposure to this utter cretin.