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Gosh, this valley girl trailing off talking is annoying
wasn't human history a long term study as wasn't our diet mainly meat, hundreds and or thousand years ago??
I think low sugar is what is making people feel better, over eating carbs makes you put on weight and reduces insulin sensitivity. The fast study on humans showed no advantage as it did with the animal studies. I think red meat will clog your arteries but if you stick with fish, chicken, Turkey, you’ll probably be fine.
Is that why Muslims fasting ?
if it is unstudied how is carnivore risky. More risky than what?
Would it make sense then to add a fermentable fibre none for product such as inulin?
Its not at all that complicated at all. The issue is that people go to extemes. Yes eating nothing but meat is restrictive. Its not that plants are bad you have to limit the plants you eat to those that dont cause problems and also how your eating them. Example in Mediterainian countries they eat lots of Tomatoes but they skin them, remove the seeds and eat only the pulp because the lectins in those parts of the tomato are designed by nature to stop you from eating them. The Lectins in many vegitables( especially beans and legumes) present identicle issues to Gluten and other plant protiens that are all designed by nature for the same funtion, so you wont eat them. They are a protective covering and we Westerners just eat them anyway and its why we have issues. Chinese and other Asians ate rice for 5000 years without issues. Well besides they adapted over time to eat such a diet, they also removed the hull from the rice and dont bleach it either. They also eat alot of fermented foods we have only begun eating here. You dont need to eat any added sugar, you can cut sugar almost entirely from your diet, you dont and shouldnt eat breads and grains and they do you no good what so ever and alot of bad. Certain vegitables such as Brussle Sprouts, Asperigus, Cabbage( especially fermented Cabbage like Sour Kraut and Kimchi, Avacad plenty of Healthy fish like Sardines, Macrel, Anchovies, Herring and Salmon as well as Grassfed, paature rased Beef and Chicken, Eggs and Healthy Oils such as Avacado and EVO. That is not restrictive at all. You can also eat berries such as Blue Berries and Blackberries etc in limited ammounts. Intermittant fasting is amazing as well when combined with these eating habbits.
Lost in the static in this interview is that the she says it's so complex that we just don't know.
Which they don't.
yeah but she doesn't explain how and why the subjects involved in the studies she quotes consumed less calories "It's explained in the study" isn't really a lot.
I don't get why it seems amazing or considered as some benefit the quite obvious fact that protein are satiating ( duh ) or that you'll loose weight when you're cutting off literally everything you'd normally eat minus the protein ( duh ) . All the science she's talking about , I'm not sure how many can understand and discern whether what she's quoting is correct , is a smokescreen to hide from the fact that simply , you cannot live on less than a handful of nutrients , your body is gonna consume itself trying to keep you alive . DUH
If this type of nutrition helped you I'm very happy for you but it won't work / make sense for most people just like with raw veganism or fruitarianism .
If it “seems” to be working, why would you not do it?
I tried it because it’s not far off from my normal diet and in 2 weeks I’ve lost 10 lbs just the boost I needed before the summer idk how sustainable it will be going forward but I’ll stick to it for now . As far as the micro biome and cell slough . Your going to shit your brains out for a week I equate that symptom to that theory . I feel great so far
This is a good discussion . But what we do know is the standard American diet is killing people. And the medical model doesn't help those of us with idiopathic situations. So we are left with treating ourselves. I'm chronically ill no quality of life. And so far no one in the medical field has helped. As far as the long term effects of this. I'm willing to risk it because science has not helped in my case. A better quality of life is better than a long life of suffering. And if this can improve any of my situation it's worth the risk.
Dr. Patrick is an wonderfully intelligent woman. Thank you for this level headed scientific information.
She is basically suggesting that people stop eating in a way that is literally healing them in every possible way and instead do a compromise because something bad may happen, but cannot explain what it is. You should do what is working for you for as long as it continues to do so and let the experts argue back and forth about the mechanism. Don’t miss the forrest for the trees. The body is an incredibly complex system that should not be judged based on a single mechanism. If you are in good health, someone should not be able to convince you that you are wrong through word salad and mechanism. The actual real world will always overrule theory.
I don't have enough money to eat so much beef.
I've been waiting patiently for her to take a breath and unclench her butt, no luck. She's obviously terrified of the thought that carnivore might change the disease profile that has been supporting medicine and pharma for so long. What she keeps saying is that carnivore is AGAINST eating plants, but we ARE eating the plants. We are eating them processed by animals who are better at breaking them down.
BTW, Joe is looking pretty puffy lately. Maybe he should get his research firsthand.
Bill Gates wants us to stop eating meat ! Enough said it must be good for you! Long live the peoples free choice ☝️!
Why do you need to study what we ate naturally where was kale in ice age.
One week carnivore down 12 lbs I would say use variety. Salmon, tuna, lamb, turkey legs, brisket don’t just eat chicken and steak. And eat two big meals a day I eat steak and eggs for breakfast and nothing but plain water till dinner when I eat salmon and crab cakes or shrimp fried in butter or something like that.
The thing which people are not linking to eating a more natural diet, is that in all processed foods (except Coca Cola original sugar cane drink that uses sucrose) you have High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS). This refined sugar is the cheapest sweetener in the world and as a result it is used in everything. It will be listed as an ingredient under different names, but essentially it is in everything; all soft drinks/soda pops, cakes, cookies, biscuits, bread, pastries, salad dressing, soups, the list goes on. Another thing you avoid by going to a natural diet, is vegetable oil. And what I am talking about is the cheapest vegetable oil that has acid applied and blasted with hydrogen, AKA hydrogenated vegetable oil, AKA Trans Fats. This is used to extend the shelf life of processed food and keep chocolate from melting etc. So by eating a more natural diet means you avoid unhealthy foods. This must have some added benefits too.
Scientist have found that certain types of simple sugar are fuel/food for certain types of cancer. If you have any type of cancer I recommend that you remove alcohol, milk and added sugars from your diet. So I can understand how fasting can help to shrink tumors. I am sure JRE has interviewed other scientists that have studies linking sugars and cancers.
Just eat lean meat, potatoes/rice/pasta with some (leafy) greens and you'll be alright.
She’s hasn’t a fkn clue … carbs = sugar – sugar feeds cancer
Fiber is not needed
Joe has been pushing this diet for years, and he is the one that told Jordan Peterson to do this type of diet!!!!
The KEY common denominator is probably Fructose. Fructose has been shown in recent studies to TRIGGER a fat storing cycle… similar to what hibernating animals experience. That "Fat Cycle" creates Insulin Resistance (IR), and IR is related every Chronic Disease we see burgeoning in the West (and wherever the Western Diet infiltrates). Don't eat sugars with Fructose in it. Only eat Fructose in Whole Fruits.
Whatever diet she's on I don't want. She can't even finish a full sentence without jumping to another.
A balanced diet doesn't exist, to many chemicals injected into the food we have to consume, talk about the real problem.
The long time studies are that the food to choose from is killing us! All meat is the best most effective diet available.
Not bio available enough .. ur plant based diet anti nutrient omnivore.. we were carnivores far before .. sorry there is clearly more evidence for it than against jt.
You can't study this properly. What would we do? Lock people up for a year and feed them and monitor them?
Did anyone do this with a vegan?
There are people that have been doing it for 40 and 65 years.
Our ancestors ate like this for 30000 years so HOW does a western diet like the one you explain be a better healthier diet?
Fiber is NOT healthy for our microbiome. It scrapes the crap out of it.
I have Hashimotos in remission because of switching to a ketovore diet. Sooooo many symptoms gone.
I have to say that sure more research to be done but who's paying for this research? Kelloggs and Post or the pharmaceutical industry? I doubt we will get any legitimate research.
This is such a useless analogy. I eat more calories in carnivore than I ever did and lost weight so that has absolutely no bearing at all on autoimmune healing.
CICO is also BS … check out the randle Cycle which actually explain how nonsensical this is. Calories have nothing to do with how a body uses energy period.
Tge medical community needs to seriously get with the times .. the real times..
90% are nothing more than prescription writers for the pharmaceutical industry and their education paid for by Kellogs and Post.
Long term is the few hundred of thousands of years we were carnivores before the large mammals got extinct and we were forced to turn omnivores due to lack of meat,
If anything is new and untested it’s the vegetarian diet, which is not meant for humans,
Surely eating only meat means that you're cutting out all the foods that could cause the problems, for example; sugar, grains, gluten, wheat etc. therefore making you feel better?
I’ve been on it for 10 months. Colitis and allergies GONE!
RIP Joe Rogan
fasting really amps auto immune system…?! interesting i've been doing this
For me, (thinking about going carnivore) its health problems that doctors just give medicine for. I have migranes 8days a month, i have edomwtriosis. Its basically impossible for me to work cuz 8 days i have to take medicine that makes me so sleepy and i cannot drive after it, and later on my period 4 days with pain i cannot move or do anything. I hope this diet will help me. I feel its the last option for me cuz living like this is horrible