I really respect your approach to experiment and seek the truth for urself. Im doing the same and try out a lot of things with an open mind. I can recommand you to buy a decent quality uv-A & uv-B lamp for a more natural approuch to increase your vitamin D level without supplements. There is no biophysical energy in supplements and yes I know a lamp is not the sun 😀 but It gave me better results for my health compared to supplements. How did your b12 testing went over the years? Bless you
This is so informative! Thank you. I just watched a Markus Rothkrantz video (raw vegan) and he mentioned how stored B12 levels aren’t detected on blood tests which might explain how you’re seeing low results but looking and feeling just fine!! Subscribed to your channel. 🙂
do you guys eat non organic and is that why you have to take b12 and iodine? maybe you should now get off the supplements and only eat organic for a year like the ital rastas and see if that works no? id be shattered if it didnt lol
well i am vegan too with normal b12 i left milk few months back when i began veganism and b12 levels raised!! so i dnt knw frm whre my b12 is coming btw they say synthetic supplemetns r not absorbed by the body
This video deserves more views and we need you on Instagram. So much misinformation about the denying of B12 supplementation amongst some fruitarians. Thank you for sharing your informed point of view! Te necesitamos en instagram. Hay tanta desinformacion y mitos de que no necesitamos B12. Gracias por ser un frutariano informado.
I was listening until you said we are not designed to eat meat. I fully agree that it's not necessary anymore but the human body has been designed to eat meat for thousands of years. Anyone who uses that argument in my mind completely loses credibility
Whenever we are provoked by the erroneous concepts that we have been programmed to respect since childhood, we must have courage in the unknown. Simple logic will always save the day. I know plenty of people who have suffered and died from disease that were pus and mucus eaters, but I do not know anybody who died eating only fruits and greenleaf vegetables (mucusless foods). Since we already know what is at the end of the mucus path, it makes sense to explore the unknown. I find it essential to interrogate the historical origins of these erroneous medical and dietetic theories. Who created the protein myth and when? Who coined the term vitamin and why? What kind of diet did these elusive founding fathers of Western medical science have, and how did it affect the nature of their investigations? Consider the historical origin of the B-12 theory:
–"B12 deficiency is the cause of several forms of anemia. The treatment for this disease was first devised by William Murphy who bled dogs to make them anemic and then fed them various substances to see what (if anything) would make them healthy again. He discovered that ingesting large amounts of liver seemed to cure the disease. George Minot and George Whipple then set about to chemically isolate the curative substance and ultimately were able to isolate vitamin B12 from the liver. For this, all three shared the 1934 Nobel Prize in Medicine (B12, Wikipedia, originally accessed 2005)."
Thus, through a sadistic experiment on a dog (not a human), Murphy reasoned that pus(rotting flesh) helped to save an anemic dog from certain death. Twisted and absurd! Unfortunately, far too many of the origin stories that form our dietetic and medical mythology derive from sordid scenarios such as this one.’
–"So if vitamin B-12 does not exist, what do medical doctors measure in a B-12 blood test?"
Short answer, they (doctors) can’t see the forest through the trees and don’t know what they are looking at.
Long answer answer: a chemist might say cyanocobalamin. Merely the name invented for a particular chemical structure found in the body. Since the days of alchemy, humans have had a fascination with extracting, isolating, naming, and examining chemical components. This proved to be useful when extracting metals from ore, making pigment for paints and make-up, or concocting questionable medicinal potions that suppress symptoms of elimination. However, it must be understood that the foundation on which Western physiology and medical science is built is egregiously erroneous. Based upon their own omnivorous diets, early researchers assumed that humans needed to eat dead animal flesh, et.al. Given the historical context surrounding the eating habits of these early investigators, it is easy to see why the foundation of physiological inquiry is so flawed. They failed to consider the proposition that humans are a tropical, frugivorous species, and that the foundation of human illness is constipation/obstruction derived from unnatural food substances. This resulted in a problematic ‘additive’ paradigm to emerge whereby the intake of (wrong) foods for fuel became the emphasis. In the Mucusless Diet Healing System, Prof. Arnold Ehret explains that
–"metabolism, or the ‘science of change of matter,’ is the most absurd and the most dangerous doctrine-teaching ever imposed on mankind. It is the father of the wrong cell theory and of that most erroneous albumen theory, which latter theory will kill and stamp out the entire civilized Western world if its following is not stopped."
The French medical term ‘anaemia’ derives from the Greek ‘anaimia’ which means “lack of blood” or “bloodless”. In 1822 a Scottish doctor wrote a report on the “History of a Case of Anemia,” which is the name eventually given to this condition of cellular constipation. Interestingly, the Scottish doctor theorized that the illness derived from digestion or absorption issues. It was only 40 years ago that American doctors proposed that the problem was associated with their problematic concept of nutrition. I do not deny the existence of particular kinds of chemical structures that may be observed in the body with sophisticated modern tools. The problem is that what these chemicals do and how they operate are misunderstood.
In medicine, flawed theories are built upon older flawed theories which result in total confusion. It is still believed by many that humans need to eat rotting carcasses to obtain some kind of nutrition. And if not enough is eaten it must be supplemented by chemical isolates (poisons), or with an increase of certain fruits/vegetables. This medieval thinking is still the foundation of Western dietetic thought. Yet, what cow drinks milk to produce milk? Or eats other cows to produce beef? What 600 lb. gorilla needs B-12 supplements or shots (unless unfortunate enough to be imprisoned by humans)? My proposition is that such reasoning of medical science is greatly flawed and it is necessary to dispense with many of these commonly held notions.
In a world where mucus and pus eating runs rampant, and clueless medical doctors are unquestionably respected like clergymen, the fear of not getting enough ‘nutrition’ still exists. A new physiological paradigm based upon the principles of Ehret’s “New Physiology” must be explored and further realized. With this said, the SYMPTOMS associated with our modern concept of ‘deficiency’ are real, although the explanation for why they occur is fallacious. Given that ‘constipation’ is the foundation of human illness, it must be understood that such experiences derive from a condition of cellular constipation. To remove this waste, and regenerate on the cellular level, may only be done perfectly and permanently through the long-term practice of the Mucusless Diet Healing System.
Horses 🐴 have the same teeth like us 😬. We are plant eaters. Google it and see. Vegans live the longest, 14 years longer. Meat eaters 51% 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀…. Heart-attack, High blood pressure, cancer…. Science rules.
Untreated water has enough b12. But we need b12 supliment because we are not drinking untreated water. Intestinal bacteria produce b12 in large intestin but its not absorbed because our b12 absorption system is present in small intestin. Low levels of b12 increases homocystein which is risk factor for cardiovascular disease and alzhiemers.
Lmao and here's your proof @3:00 when you said that horses an cows are vegans… you don't know what your talking about..sorry vegans but you guys are delusional
The soil has been washed in pestasides and the water also everything they spray kills the b12..the only way the b12 is in the soil is from dead carcuses
1. In an Natural environment, you would be eating meat as well because in a natural environment you will and should be taking advantage of every food source you can.
2. Meat is not unnatural, even for humans. Okinawans, the population with the highest average life expectancy, eat meat (although not as much as an average city dwellers in Western country might). These people can eat meat without artificial help, infact ANYONE can meat without artificial help.
3. Soil is not inherently healthy. People get away with ingesting a little bit of soil through their finger nails because in that small quantity, the chances of you getting a serious infection decreases by ALOT.
3. I can't take you seriously because your stance is VERY UNCLEAR in this video.
4. Post some credible sources. From respected journals like Nature or NCBI etc.
P.S.- before anyone questions me, please know that I belong to the Apatani tribe from Arunachal Pradesh. Me and my people live more "Natural" life than 99% of you vegans will ever will. Google about my hometown (it's called Ziro, with an "i").
Also my family has experienced what it's like to live in a "natural" diet. My grandmother lost two sons when they were quite young just because they didn't have the genetics that would have conferred on the the immune system required to live in a "natural" diet.
Now admittedly that the commercially available meat is also not healthy, but the diet that you advocate isn't perfect as well.
They're not vegans, they're herbivores. It's not the same. I'm sure someone will have pointed this out before me. Just in case, here I am. Veganism is a lifestyle based on morals, and as far as we know we humans are the only animals in this world who have moral agency. 🙂
It may not be best to wait for symptoms to arrive because I've read that some of the damage is irreversible. From Dr. Fuhrman: Vitamin B12 is required for important biological functions like red blood cell production, nervous system function, and DNA synthesis. Deficiency in B12 can cause a variety of health problems, including elevated homocysteine (a cardiovascular risk factor), anemia, depression, confusion, fatigue, digestive issues, and nerve damage. Insufficient B12 levels are also associated with increased risk of Alzheimer’s disease.
Vitamin B12 is unique in that it is made only by microorganisms. Because our produce is washed and often transported much before we eat it (soil contains B12-producing microorganisms), most of us are unable to get sufficient B12 from plant foods alone.
B12 deficiency is common, especially in vegans who don’t supplement and in the elderly. Our ability to absorb B12 decreases with age, and about 20 percent of adults over the age of 60 are either insufficient or deficient in vitamin B12. Supplementation with vitamin B12 is likely important for most people, and absolutely required for most vegans to achieve sufficient B12 levels.
Thank you! I use B12 from time to time…for about 5 years, now. ^_^ Great results. I have to eat food first or I feel dizzy and nauseaus. My children and I eat Vegan for average of 2 to 5 years; and are trying to go exclusively raw.
I also have a question about you always saying move to somewhere warmer & tropical… because it's not like you can just gain citizenship. How are you supposed to live somewhere tropical when you don't have citizenship to that place and you need to work to survive?
Hahaha, are you serious? How is meat not natural? Oysters are packed with B12, they grow naturally all along the Norwegian coast, you can pick them directly from the sea, for free, and they are delicious and super healthy. How are supplements natural? You mean people should eat supplements instead of just eating oysters? Incredible channel.
"we're not designed to eat meat"? you are claiming here that we are designed. If so, then the same arguments against design apply here. Indeed humanity is a very crappy design and the designer has nothing to show off here. Add shoddy workmanship on top of the mediocre designer.
I really respect your approach to experiment and seek the truth for urself.
Im doing the same and try out a lot of things with an open mind.
I can recommand you to buy a decent quality uv-A & uv-B lamp for a more natural approuch to increase your vitamin D level without supplements. There is no biophysical energy in supplements and yes I know a lamp is not the sun 😀 but It gave me better results for my health compared to supplements.
How did your b12 testing went over the years?
Bless you
This is so informative! Thank you. I just watched a Markus Rothkrantz video (raw vegan) and he mentioned how stored B12 levels aren’t detected on blood tests which might explain how you’re seeing low results but looking and feeling just fine!! Subscribed to your channel. 🙂
Wow! Very nice to see someone experimenting and delivering thoughts in such a calm way. Thank you! I got new ideas for myself
So what do you think about it now?
well explained, its the truth. thank you for all that work and share the informations
Compost toilet & organic compost on your garden, you can do this even I'm a small apartment. 😊
This is what I have been feeling. I don’t really want to take a supplement because my body simply doesn’t want to swallow a capsule lol.
Eww a KFC ad just popped up before this.
do you guys eat non organic and is that why you have to take b12 and iodine? maybe you should now get off the supplements and only eat organic for a year like the ital rastas and see if that works no? id be shattered if it didnt lol
well i am vegan too with normal b12 i left milk few months back when i began veganism and b12 levels raised!!
so i dnt knw frm whre my b12 is coming
btw they say synthetic supplemetns r not absorbed by the body
This is so good
Can I just correct you on one thing? Bacteria is plural of bacterium.
Great contribution to the B12 debate 🙏
This video deserves more views and we need you on Instagram. So much misinformation about the denying of B12 supplementation amongst some fruitarians. Thank you for sharing your informed point of view!
Te necesitamos en instagram. Hay tanta desinformacion y mitos de que no necesitamos B12. Gracias por ser un frutariano informado.
I was listening until you said we are not designed to eat meat. I fully agree that it's not necessary anymore but the human body has been designed to eat meat for thousands of years. Anyone who uses that argument in my mind completely loses credibility
B12 is made in our gut, not from outside: http://health101.org/art_B12_Bottom_Line
B12 is a dietary myth. https://www.mucusfreelife.com/exploring-b-12-myth/
Whenever we are provoked by the erroneous concepts that we have been programmed to respect since childhood, we must have courage in the unknown. Simple logic will always save the day. I know plenty of people who have suffered and died from disease that were pus and mucus eaters, but I do not know anybody who died eating only fruits and greenleaf vegetables (mucusless foods). Since we already know what is at the end of the mucus path, it makes sense to explore the unknown. I find it essential to interrogate the historical origins of these erroneous medical and dietetic theories. Who created the protein myth and when? Who coined the term vitamin and why? What kind of diet did these elusive founding fathers of Western medical science have, and how did it affect the nature of their investigations? Consider the historical origin of the B-12 theory:
–"B12 deficiency is the cause of several forms of anemia. The treatment for this disease was first devised by William Murphy who bled dogs to make them anemic and then fed them various substances to see what (if anything) would make them healthy again. He discovered that ingesting large amounts of liver seemed to cure the disease. George Minot and George Whipple then set about to chemically isolate the curative substance and ultimately were able to isolate vitamin B12 from the liver. For this, all three shared the 1934 Nobel Prize in Medicine (B12, Wikipedia, originally accessed 2005)."
Thus, through a sadistic experiment on a dog (not a human), Murphy reasoned that pus(rotting flesh) helped to save an anemic dog from certain death. Twisted and absurd! Unfortunately, far too many of the origin stories that form our dietetic and medical mythology derive from sordid scenarios such as this one.’
–"So if vitamin B-12 does not exist, what do medical doctors measure in a B-12 blood test?"
Short answer, they (doctors) can’t see the forest through the trees and don’t know what they are looking at.
Long answer answer: a chemist might say cyanocobalamin. Merely the name invented for a particular chemical structure found in the body. Since the days of alchemy, humans have had a fascination with extracting, isolating, naming, and examining chemical components. This proved to be useful when extracting metals from ore, making pigment for paints and make-up, or concocting questionable medicinal potions that suppress symptoms of elimination. However, it must be understood that the foundation on which Western physiology and medical science is built is egregiously erroneous. Based upon their own omnivorous diets, early researchers assumed that humans needed to eat dead animal flesh, et.al. Given the historical context surrounding the eating habits of these early investigators, it is easy to see why the foundation of physiological inquiry is so flawed. They failed to consider the proposition that humans are a tropical, frugivorous species, and that the foundation of human illness is constipation/obstruction derived from unnatural food substances. This resulted in a problematic ‘additive’ paradigm to emerge whereby the intake of (wrong) foods for fuel became the emphasis. In the Mucusless Diet Healing System, Prof. Arnold Ehret explains that
–"metabolism, or the ‘science of change of matter,’ is the most absurd and the most dangerous doctrine-teaching ever imposed on mankind. It is the father of the wrong cell theory and of that most erroneous albumen theory, which latter theory will kill and stamp out the entire civilized Western world if its following is not stopped."
The French medical term ‘anaemia’ derives from the Greek ‘anaimia’ which means “lack of blood” or “bloodless”. In 1822 a Scottish doctor wrote a report on the “History of a Case of Anemia,” which is the name eventually given to this condition of cellular constipation. Interestingly, the Scottish doctor theorized that the illness derived from digestion or absorption issues. It was only 40 years ago that American doctors proposed that the problem was associated with their problematic concept of nutrition. I do not deny the existence of particular kinds of chemical structures that may be observed in the body with sophisticated modern tools. The problem is that what these chemicals do and how they operate are misunderstood.
In medicine, flawed theories are built upon older flawed theories which result in total confusion. It is still believed by many that humans need to eat rotting carcasses to obtain some kind of nutrition. And if not enough is eaten it must be supplemented by chemical isolates (poisons), or with an increase of certain fruits/vegetables. This medieval thinking is still the foundation of Western dietetic thought. Yet, what cow drinks milk to produce milk? Or eats other cows to produce beef? What 600 lb. gorilla needs B-12 supplements or shots (unless unfortunate enough to be imprisoned by humans)? My proposition is that such reasoning of medical science is greatly flawed and it is necessary to dispense with many of these commonly held notions.
In a world where mucus and pus eating runs rampant, and clueless medical doctors are unquestionably respected like clergymen, the fear of not getting enough ‘nutrition’ still exists. A new physiological paradigm based upon the principles of Ehret’s “New Physiology” must be explored and further realized. With this said, the SYMPTOMS associated with our modern concept of ‘deficiency’ are real, although the explanation for why they occur is fallacious. Given that ‘constipation’ is the foundation of human illness, it must be understood that such experiences derive from a condition of cellular constipation. To remove this waste, and regenerate on the cellular level, may only be done perfectly and permanently through the long-term practice of the Mucusless Diet Healing System.
Peace, Love, and Breath!
-Prof. Spira"
Horses 🐴 have the same teeth like us 😬. We are plant eaters. Google it and see. Vegans live the longest, 14 years longer. Meat eaters 51% 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀…. Heart-attack, High blood pressure, cancer…. Science rules.
Where are you people getting this idea that humans aren’t designed to consume meats/fish 😆 even Jesus consumed fish and meats (when available to him)
Bro my dream is get settled in Norway. please help me
Untreated water has enough b12. But we need b12 supliment because we are not drinking untreated water.
Intestinal bacteria produce b12 in large intestin but its not absorbed because our b12 absorption system is present in small intestin.
Low levels of b12 increases homocystein which is risk factor for cardiovascular disease and alzhiemers.
You sayin I have to lick my fingers after pooping to get b12?
The brand is "my kind" b12 spray that is even Methyl
There's a whole food b 12 on the market did you know.
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https://youtu.be/OqvwEJ2dFdU
https://youtu.be/TdTXaFtDqZE
Lmao and here's your proof @3:00 when you said that horses an cows are vegans… you don't know what your talking about..sorry vegans but you guys are delusional
The soil has been washed in pestasides and the water also everything they spray kills the b12..the only way the b12 is in the soil is from dead carcuses
B12 burns up the more the meat is cooked
So much calmness and steadiness in your video. I admire you for it .
1. In an Natural environment, you would be eating meat as well because in a natural environment you will and should be taking advantage of every food source you can.
2. Meat is not unnatural, even for humans. Okinawans, the population with the highest average life expectancy, eat meat (although not as much as an average city dwellers in Western country might). These people can eat meat without artificial help, infact ANYONE can meat without artificial help.
3. Soil is not inherently healthy. People get away with ingesting a little bit of soil through their finger nails because in that small quantity, the chances of you getting a serious infection decreases by ALOT.
3. I can't take you seriously because your stance is VERY UNCLEAR in this video.
4. Post some credible sources. From respected journals like Nature or NCBI etc.
P.S.- before anyone questions me, please know that I belong to the Apatani tribe from Arunachal Pradesh. Me and my people live more "Natural" life than 99% of you vegans will ever will. Google about my hometown (it's called Ziro, with an "i").
Also my family has experienced what it's like to live in a "natural" diet. My grandmother lost two sons when they were quite young just because they didn't have the genetics that would have conferred on the the immune system required to live in a "natural" diet.
Now admittedly that the commercially available meat is also not healthy, but the diet that you advocate isn't perfect as well.
Ah, someone that makes sense. Thank you. Could you provide an update on your supplementation/no supplementation experiment?
They're not vegans, they're herbivores. It's not the same. I'm sure someone will have pointed this out before me. Just in case, here I am. Veganism is a lifestyle based on morals, and as far as we know we humans are the only animals in this world who have moral agency. 🙂
It may not be best to wait for symptoms to arrive because I've read that some of the damage is irreversible.
From Dr. Fuhrman:
Vitamin B12 is required for important biological functions like red blood cell production, nervous system function, and DNA synthesis. Deficiency in B12 can cause a variety of health problems, including elevated homocysteine (a cardiovascular risk factor), anemia, depression, confusion, fatigue, digestive issues, and nerve damage. Insufficient B12 levels are also associated with increased risk of Alzheimer’s disease.
Vitamin B12 is unique in that it is made only by microorganisms. Because our produce is washed and often transported much before we eat it (soil contains B12-producing microorganisms), most of us are unable to get sufficient B12 from plant foods alone.
B12 deficiency is common, especially in vegans who don’t supplement and in the elderly. Our ability to absorb B12 decreases with age, and about 20 percent of adults over the age of 60 are either insufficient or deficient in vitamin B12. Supplementation with vitamin B12 is likely important for most people, and absolutely required for most vegans to achieve sufficient B12 levels.
Thank you! I use B12 from time to time…for about 5 years, now. ^_^ Great results. I have to eat food first or I feel dizzy and nauseaus. My children and I eat Vegan for average of 2 to 5 years; and are trying to go exclusively raw.
I also have a question about you always saying move to somewhere warmer & tropical… because it's not like you can just gain citizenship. How are you supposed to live somewhere tropical when you don't have citizenship to that place and you need to work to survive?
Hahaha, are you serious? How is meat not natural? Oysters are packed with B12, they grow naturally all along the Norwegian coast, you can pick them directly from the sea, for free, and they are delicious and super healthy. How are supplements natural? You mean people should eat supplements instead of just eating oysters? Incredible channel.
what about omega 3's. can you make a video
"we're not designed to eat meat"? you are claiming here that we are designed. If so, then the same arguments against design apply here. Indeed humanity is a very crappy design and the designer has nothing to show off here. Add shoddy workmanship on top of the mediocre designer.